Exercise & Fitness

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It is good to hear about TeamWild.  Personally, I did not come to this forum to "find help and support."  I came her to discuss topics of mutual interest with other people who have diabetes.  I consider it entirely appropriate to discuss TeamWild and athletic events that raise funds for charities and discuss and debate topics related to exercise and competition.  I consider spamming to be about misuse of a forum for "personal gain," it don't think it should apply to outreach for efforts that are simply of benefit to the diabetic community.

[lizzylou Diabetes Brain Trust]

You always make sure that you can be as contrary as possible don't you?

You know dang good and well that advertising for for-profit services are against the rules.  Paid-for services are "personal gain".

If that isn't to your liking there are other boards.  You don't make the rules for this board, perhaps Matt, the one who enforces them, can send you a reminder of the rules. 

Lizzy 

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I'm sorry you are not aware of TeamWild or Tour de Cure, a quick google can confirm that they both hardly qualify as "for profit" activities.  I find that first impressions are often the most important, and frankly some of the responses to first posts on this board don't leave the best impression.

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I personally would like to hear more about TeamWild despite claims that it is "for-profit."  I firmly believe that both TeamWild and Tour de Cure not "for-profit" and are appropriate for discussion here.  So I would be pleased to hear more from Mari and others.

[lizzylou Diabetes Brain Trust]

There you go again, as always, twisting the truth.  Tour de Cure is  a program operated by the ADA.  If you want to hear more about it read this site!

TeamWild is a for-profit company that sells seminars on various subjects, or as they call them webinars.  Just go to the site and have your credit card ready and you can learn all that you want to.  It absolutely is a for-profit.

Then of course you could also talk with Mariruddy on your other hangout TuDiabetes.

I wasted enough time with answering you. 

Lizzy

[mariruddy]

Hi Lizzy and Others,
I apologize for firing things up. My intention is to help people with diabetes be fit. I know what a struggle it has been for me personally. You are correct in that Tour de Cure is a program of the American Diabetes Association. The Red Rider Program is something I thought of and ran for 2 years as a volunteer with the Tour in Colorado. Once we got it going, other Tours have started doing it. ANd the Walks now have Red Striders. I continue in a volunteer capacity to make training videos for the Tour about how to implement the Red Rider program. I also am the Tour Spokesperson for the second year in a row. Also a volunteer position. I am very passionate about people having the tools and inspiration and education to undertake rides like the Tour de Cure. Thus, I love giving as much time as possible as a volunteer to the Tour.

It isalso true Lizzy, that Team WILD is not a non profit. I investigated and got advice about what business model we should use. Ultimately, since what WILD does is provide actual coaching and diabetes education, and women purchase a club membership, we don't really fit what the IRS needs for an organization to be a non profit. I am not making any money at the moment, so it is volunteer work and likely will be for a quite a while longer.WILD is what I longed for 10 years ago when I started to get active since I was very worried about my diabetes control and the longevity of my life. I think women with diabetes have different needs and I wanted to provide that for us.

My hope is to get more women active with the support and education from experts and thus being active here on this message board  as the creator of the Red Rider program and as the founder of WILD was why I started posting. And better yes, I need to keep myself inspired, and I love connecting with people with diabetes.

I now understand the letter of the law of rules about posting here and I apologize if I overstepped. That has never been my intention. I don't believe in taking advantage of people especially of people with a chronic condition that costs a lot of money. (I should know about this, with surviving cancer twice and living with type 1 for 30 years, I have spent my fair share of my personal money on medical things and having someone pitch stuff in what is supposed to be a safe space isn't cool.) I apologize that I didn't follow the letter of the law. And Lizzy, I actually appreciate that you pointed it out to me.

Sincerely,
Mari

[lizzylou Diabetes Brain Trust]

Mari:  I realize that you misunderstood and don't fault you.  That's why I explained it to you.

Brian just loves to stir things up and criticize the rules around here.  But I'm sure you can understand why those rules are in place. 

Every day we have people coming here trying to sell things.  They even come on selling "cures" to vulnerable and unknowing newbies.  A chiropractor came here recently selling his practice that would help eliminate the pain of neuropathy.  And sometimes they're even very sneaky about it.  They come on saying they were a client of this "great" service that eliminated this or that complication of diabetes.  And sometimes they outright lie.  One group has people come here every few months saying that they have the full approval and endorsement of the ADA (a lie) to advertise there pyramid programs and solicit members.  That group even went so far as to duplicate one of the ADA logos on their website.

So the ADA has to establish rules.  I've seen some of the message boards that have no rules, it's complete chaos! 

If you want to advertise your company you might want to look into Diabetes Forecast magazine.  It's a good place because the mag is pretty popular.

Lizzy