09-26-2013 12:03 PM - edited 09-26-2013 12:04 PM
My insurance company reduced the number if test strips I am allowed in 30 day period. Endo wants me to continue testing continue as usual. I use One Touch products and thought I'd try the Prime Meter to save money. It was a huge mistake. I went on a short hike (3 ml), bg 87 prior to leaving. Had small carb snack. On the way back i felt I was going low. Tested at 47, but felt much lower. Treated, but got to the point i couldn't walk. Meter said 55. I was becoming incoherent. My husband propped me on his bike and we finally made it back to parking lot. I was then able to fill RX for One Touch strips I did a 2 day comparison test, being careful to wash hands, use same finger, etc. The Prime ran higher every time. The biggest variance was 57 points! The average difference was 20 points. I bet if i had tested with One Touch on the hike it would have read LO! It wouldn't have happened anyway because i would have realized I was going low at start of hike. After using the Prime for a few weeks I had increased my basal insulin thinking my numbers were running higher. This just added to the b problem.
The Reli On Prime meter and strips are extremely inaccurate and dangerous for diabetics using insulin especially. They should not be on the market.
I am so sorry you had such a horrible and potentially life-threatening experience. I would give Walmart a call and find out if you have a bad meter, or perhaps a bad batch of strips. I have the Relion Ultima that I purchased because my insurance company didn't cover frequent testing. When I first started using it, I compared it multiple times to readings on my Accu-check Nano and they were always within about 4 points of each other. However, both meters always test anywhere from 10-20 points higher than when I have my FBG done at the lab (when I go for my lab FBG, I always test in the parking lot with my own meter right after). My endo said that was considered an acceptable difference. That might be true when your BG is in the 80-100 range, but certainly not when it's running low.
I don't blame you if you never want to use a Relion meter again after what happened to you, but I do think they can be an affordable option Thank goodness you had your husband along with you! Take care.
09-26-2013 12:05 PM
I use the Relion Prime meter also, and have had no difficulties with it, but I have seen one report from another user that IF the blood sample is small then the meter would give a higher reading. My Average BG seems to be tracking with my A1c in about the same manner as my old Contour. I used to have the opposite problem (lower readings) with my Contour USB meter..Small sample...Low reading. At any rate the meter is what it says it is..An economical choice for people tired of insurance hassles and people without insurance, or limits on the number of strips they may use.
Since I am off diabestes meds and insulin....I find it almost impossible to drive myself to a low, despite my diet and constant state of ketosis.
09-26-2013 01:01 PM
The lab work uses venous blood. Your meter uses capillary blood which contains both venous blood and arterial blood. Therefore a difference should be expected. Next time you have blood drawn, ask the drawer to give you a small sample to test with your meter. I think you will find it's much closer.
09-28-2013 05:40 PM
I am using the ReliOn Prime and so far have had no problems with it. My mom has a TrueTest that she was sent from Arriva and once a month I will check with the two and have had no problems. Have only seen maybe a 2 point variance either way.
09-28-2013 06:01 PM
I am so sorry that you had a problem with the RelionPrime. I have been using one for over 9 months now and am quite satisfied. My husband, until recently, was using a FreeStyle Lite and I would check to make sure they were close. Never much of a variance at all. Have you checked it with control solution? Could be faulty test strips.
09-28-2013 11:13 PM
I have used a prime for a few months and it ofwas close to my onetouch ultra 2. But was always higher than my contour. I decided to run a test solution on the prime and it tested out of the normal range twice. it tested 178 ND 180, I think that strips said something like136 was the cut off for normal range. But it did'nt test as high as the high range. Although the stips are cheap for the prime I am going back to the contour. It is always lower than the prime. The contours and micro get high marks from consumer reports on accuracy. I also investde in a free style lite at it is the one currently recomended by dr Bernstien.
09-29-2013 08:53 AM - edited 09-29-2013 09:14 AM
Scooton3, I too order online all the time, and get my Walmart orders surprisingly fast. There are always things that we consume on a regular basis to make a large enough order to get free shipping. It's so nice to have products I use frequently arrive right on my doorstep, and I don't use the gas to go to the store that way.
I'm using a Relion Prime as my main meter at this time. When I first got mine, I tested it against my One Touch Ultra Mini for a weekend. My Relion Prime meter tested out as good to go, so I'm using it as my main meter. But, as test strips are expensive for the Ultra, even with getting them on Amazon, I will go back to my other meter for a period and use up those perfectly good strips I have, then go back to the Relion Prime for awhile, making sure I use my current strip supply of those up as well.
It appears that the manufacturer of the Relion Prime meters may have some quality control problems, as there are too many people having issues with them. If I had one that seemed to be inaccurate, I'd test against another meter that is known to be fairly accurate. Then, if the Relion Prime still seems to be inaccurate, I'd call the manufacturer immediately for a replacement. Those people who have tested their Relion Prime meter against other meters and gotten confirmation that their specific Relion Prime meter seems to read accurately within the parameters, do confirm that the majority of Relion Prime meters are accurate. If otherwise, get a replacement by contacting the manufacturer.
09-29-2013 01:29 PM
I just called relion to see about a replacement meter. And they told me the prime doesn't use a standart test solution but its own. They told me they wanted me to test with that solution before they could replace meter. I will be curious to see if the results now fall into the normal range.
09-29-2013 07:37 PM
The Prime is made for Walmart by Arkray. Some of the Relion meters are made by Abbott labs, so using the correct control solution for each meter is important, but they make it is easy to get confused because of the mixed manufacture. The Prime appears to use the same strips as the Ark ray Glucocard Vital, but I have not tested this theory out.
09-30-2013 03:51 AM
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