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Chicagoman
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Numb Toes & Tingling Feet = Freaking Out!!!

Hello,

 

I just signed up and have learned quite a lot from reading the posts. I have been pre-Type 2 for awhile and about a year ago my doctor said I was now a real diabetic, but I felt my numbers were low enough to not fret, I would just cut out bread, beer, etc. and exercise more.

 

But lately some middle toes are numb on one foot, I thought it was from old frostbite perhaps, but now I also get tingling as when one's foot is asleep. Lately I have been really trying to reduce my numbers and trying to avoid Metformin. I'm on two heart meds, a prostate med,  and Lipitor so I don't want to add Metformin if I don't absolutely have to. I am not all that trusting of the pharmaceutical industry.

 

My question is: Has anyone successfully reversed these foot symptoms when bringing down their numbers and getting their diabetes under control? 

 

Thank you,

 

P.S. How do you get permission to change your avatar photo?

60 year old male
T2, A1C = 6.7 as of May 2013
A1C = 6.5 as of July 2013
Metformin ER 500 mg, Lisinopril 5mg, Coreg 40mg, Lipitor
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GraceAlex
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Re: Numb Toes & Tingling Feet = Freaking Out!!!

To answer the foot question - YES!!

 

I had noticed for a while that my feet were numb and I had what looked like mottled / pinprick bruising all over the tops of my feet and around my ankles. I also had lost some sensation in my heels and toes.

I was diagnosed with Type 2 just 7 weeks ago, with an Ac1 of 12.3 (BG over 300 for at least 2 months, probably years!)

I already have my BG levels down to under 160 average!  My feet and ankles look almost 100% normal already and sensation has returned. :smileyhappy:

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jimssnell
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Re: Numb Toes & Tingling Feet = Freaking Out!!!


Chicagoman wrote:

Hello,

 

I just signed up and have learned quite a lot from reading the posts. I have been pre-Type 2 for awhile and about a year ago my doctor said I was now a real diabetic, but I felt my numbers were low enough to not fret, I would just cut out bread, beer, etc. and exercise more.

 

But lately some middle toes are numb on one foot, I thought it was from old frostbite perhaps, but now I also get tingling as when one's foot is asleep. Lately I have been really trying to reduce my numbers and trying to avoid Metformin. I'm on two heart meds, a prostate med,  and Lipitor so I don't want to add Metformin if I don't absolutely have to. I am not all that trusting of the pharmaceutical industry.

 

My question is: Has anyone successfully reversed these foot symptoms when bringing down their numbers and getting their diabetes under control? 

 

Thank you,

 

P.S. How do you get permission to change your avatar photo?


On the foot issue; I see to isuues - stopping the diabetic glucose rot and getting the numbers down. AFter that one needs to take care, exercise and look after carefully. Some things heal well and fast other's take time.

Why are you holding off metformin?

 

Metformin actually stops excess glucose at its source - the liver. After that point body insulin, oral pills, injected insulin needed to get the glucose out of blood system to the muscles and fat cells. Of all the drugs used on type 2 ; this one is the most useful with minimum complications and has been used on cancer and other issues.

Obviously you /doctor may have valid concerns.

 

Re avatar: see notes on your private page and upload a possible and that is submitted for approval automatically and you will receive approval. ADA system admin can give better descriptions.

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30+ years as type 2 diabetic
40 years as Digital Microprocessor System designer
Stroke in 2007 and retired.
Metformin, Humalog Lispro, 1200 calorie Diet and 1.5 to 2 miles walking exercise A1C = 6.4
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George_M
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Re: Numb Toes & Tingling Feet = Freaking Out!!!

Hi, Chicagoman.  Welcome to this forum.  When I was diagnosed, I felt the way you do about Metformin - I wanted to avoid it if possible.  Now, I'm not so sure.  I've done quite a bit of reading on Metformin, and it seems to have some other beneficial effects in addition to helping with blood glucose control.  Diabetics on Metformin apparently have a lower risk of heart attacks and strokes than diabetics not on Metformin.  Do some reading and exploring before you reject Metformin - you may decide it isn't so bad after all.

George

Diagnosed T2 9/12/12, A1C 10.1
Metformin 500 mg. 1 x daily since 9/17/2012
A1C 12/13/2012 5.6
A1C 3/15/2013 5.4
A1C 11/29/2013 5.5
Weight at diagnosis 9/12/2012 288
Weight 10/01/2013 187
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Re: Numb Toes & Tingling Feet = Freaking Out!!!


Chicagoman wrote:

Hello,

 

I just signed up and have learned quite a lot from reading the posts. I have been pre-Type 2 for awhile and about a year ago my doctor said I was now a real diabetic, but I felt my numbers were low enough to not fret, I would just cut out bread, beer, etc. and exercise more.

 

But lately some middle toes are numb on one foot, I thought it was from old frostbite perhaps, but now I also get tingling as when one's foot is asleep. Lately I have been really trying to reduce my numbers and trying to avoid Metformin. I'm on two heart meds, a prostate med,  and Lipitor so I don't want to add Metformin if I don't absolutely have to. I am not all that trusting of the pharmaceutical industry.

 

My question is: Has anyone successfully reversed these foot symptoms when bringing down their numbers and getting their diabetes under control? 

 

Thank you,

 

P.S. How do you get permission to change your avatar photo?


Chicago,

Would be willing to post some of the specifics of your medical situation?  Meter readings, etc.

 

You'll get some very educated responses if you are able to share some information when you feel comfortable.

 

IN ANY CASE, PLEASE CONSIDER SEEING A MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL THAT WILL DO A FOOT EXAM FOR YOU.

 

GOTTA GO FOR NOW

Best, to you
first dx T2 in 2008 oral meds didn't work, injected Victoza worked for months
bG went extremely high and I started injecting insulin at urgent care
2nd Dx as T1 IDDM or T1.5 IDDM 8-13
got Dexcom CGM
Now using Tslim pump, diligence and Novalog
to achieve tight control, to keep my job and life
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Re: Numb Toes & Tingling Feet = Freaking Out!!!

Something in the neibohrhood of 260 amputations per day in the USA performed on Type II diabetics.

Best, to you
first dx T2 in 2008 oral meds didn't work, injected Victoza worked for months
bG went extremely high and I started injecting insulin at urgent care
2nd Dx as T1 IDDM or T1.5 IDDM 8-13
got Dexcom CGM
Now using Tslim pump, diligence and Novalog
to achieve tight control, to keep my job and life
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Chicagoman
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Re: Numb Toes & Tingling Feet = Freaking Out!!!

Thanks for the replies!

 

I have a stabilized heart condition called Idiopathic Dilated Cardiomyopathy, a "mild case", I used to also have an arrythmia which they could not trace, so they put me on CoReg & Lisinopril, I am is stable now.  An internist put me on Lipitor. My urologist just started me on Vesicare for an enlarged prostate. Now the Endocronolgist wants me on Metformin. ugh! One smart thing I did (finally) is I brought all these specialists under one hospital chain roof so they can compare digital records. I should have done that years ago.

 

So, the way I see it having so many prescriptions at 59 can't bode well together and for the future, something has to react, correct? Also, I have a fear that if I run out of insurance, my wife (union teacher) quits, retires early or gets laid off, as a self employed person I won't get covered, unless Obamacare really comes through(?). As an uninsurable person I would have to stop all these meds probably.

 

About me, my morning readings are between 105-120 no matter what I eat and how much I exercise. Two hours after meals I am always under 140, however my A1C was 6.7 two months ago. To look at me I epitomize a healthy guy for my age, although I need to lose another 3 lbs around the belly, my work is physicalMy plan is to keep on my new diet, exercise and bring the A1C way down for my next test so they don't insist on Metformin. How's that idea? However, if taking Met will allow me to eat bread, beer, etc. I may take it because this very restrictive, low carb diet is not any fun! 

 

Thanks

60 year old male
T2, A1C = 6.7 as of May 2013
A1C = 6.5 as of July 2013
Metformin ER 500 mg, Lisinopril 5mg, Coreg 40mg, Lipitor
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Re: Numb Toes & Tingling Feet = Freaking Out!!!


Chicagoman wrote:

Thanks for the replies!

 

I have a stabilized heart condition called Idiopathic Dilated Cardiomyopathy, a "mild case", I used to also have an arrythmia which they could not trace, so they put me on CoReg & Lisinopril, I am is stable now.  An internist put me on Lipitor. My urologist just started me on Vesicare for an enlarged prostate. Now the Endocronolgist wants me on Metformin. ugh! One smart thing I did (finally) is I brought all these specialists under one hospital chain roof so they can compare digital records. I should have done that years ago.

 

So, the way I see it having so many prescriptions at 59 can't bode well together and for the future, something has to react, correct? Also, I have a fear that if I run out of insurance, my wife (union teacher) quits, retires early or gets laid off, as a self employed person I won't get covered, unless Obamacare really comes through(?). As an uninsurable person I would have to stop all these meds probably.

 

About me, my morning readings are between 105-120 no matter what I eat and how much I exercise. Two hours after meals I am always under 140, however my A1C was 6.7 two months ago. To look at me I epitomize a healthy guy for my age, although I need to lose another 3 lbs around the belly, my work is physicalMy plan is to keep on my new diet, exercise and bring the A1C way down for my next test so they don't insist on Metformin. How's that idea? However, if taking Met will allow me to eat bread, beer, etc. I may take it because this very restrictive, low carb diet is not any fun! 

 

Thanks


 

G'day

 

What are you ONE hour after meals?

 

Read both of these to see why I ask:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Cheers, Alan, Type 2, d&e metformin 2000mg, Australia.
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Re: Numb Toes & Tingling Feet = Freaking Out!!!

CM--

 

It is possible with normal numbers to reverse diabetic neuropathy. Basically high glucose levels  cause nerve damage, so removing those high numbers can allow the nerves to heal.  Happened to me.

 

But although the tingling you describe is a typical symptom of peripheral neuropathy caused by diabetes, with diabetes it usually happens in both feet at the same time. That makes me wonder if your problem may have some other cause--such as a shoe that is too tight, pants that pinch a nerve, hooking your foot over the legs of a chair, socks that rub are among other possible causes.   So I would not jump to the conclusion that it is related to diabetes, but if you have good insurance now, this would be a good time to see a foot specialist to get it checked...

 

Oh and metformin, aside from the initial gastric upset it often causes, usually temporary, has not other side effects.  It's also very effective at helping to lower blood sugar and generally costs $4/month at the chain drup stores...

Morris

Diagnosed Type 2, with an A1c of 11.4 in 2003; averaging a 5.0 A1c since then with diet, exercise and Glipizide XL + meds for blood pressure and cholesterol. 
A bit dated, but scroll down on this page if you want to know more ...


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Chicagoman wrote:

About me, my morning readings are between 105-120 no matter what I eat and how much I exercise. Two hours after meals I am always under 140, however my A1C was 6.7 two months ago. To look at me I epitomize a healthy guy for my age, although I need to lose another 3 lbs around the belly, my work is physicalMy plan is to keep on my new diet, exercise and bring the A1C way down for my next test so they don't insist on Metformin. How's that idea? However, if taking Met will allow me to eat bread, beer, etc. I may take it because this very restrictive, low carb diet is not any fun! 

 


 

First, I would look at other possible causes for your numb toes and tingling feet.  Diabetic neuropathy generally occurs after a long time spent with blood glucose over 200 for at least part of the day.  It doesn't sound like you have had that severe a problem.  If what you have does turn out to be diabetic neuropathy, it can reverse itself, although the symptoms may get worse while it is doing that.

To keep your blood glucose under control, you have to choose between the bread, beer, etc. on the one hand, or the Metformin on the other hand.  It is your choice, and you are the one who will have to live with it.  If you want to, you can choose to control with diet for a while and see how that goes.  If the feeling of being deprived becomes too much, you can start the Metformin then.  I have found new, tasty foods that I can substitute for the bread, potatoes, cereal, etc., so I don't feel deprived.  That could happen to you also.  The hardest part for me is when I am invited to a party at someone else's house.  I usually bring something, so there is something there that I can eat.
 

 

George

Diagnosed T2 9/12/12, A1C 10.1
Metformin 500 mg. 1 x daily since 9/17/2012
A1C 12/13/2012 5.6
A1C 3/15/2013 5.4
A1C 11/29/2013 5.5
Weight at diagnosis 9/12/2012 288
Weight 10/01/2013 187