Reply
Frequent Responder
mikeyboni
Total Posts: 58
Registered on: ‎12-03-2011
Helpful Response

Epsom Salt

is it okay to soak feet with epsom salt? i have foot pain/gout, swelling

Mikeyboni
Type 2 - Diagnosed April 2002

Glimepiride
Pioglitazone
Metformin HCL
Gabapentin

A1C in 2012
March 5.8
June 6.0
October 6.2
December 6.3


Responder
drew55
Total Posts: 37
Registered on: ‎12-01-2009

Re: Epsom Salt

Mikeyboni -

     Like every other tidbits of information you can find here, bear in mind that "your mileage may vary."  It's not exactly the same for everyone, but from everything I've found the use of Epsom Salts overall has mostly positive effects.

 

     Like anything, over doing it can have negative effects though  Salts can have a drying effect on sensitive skin that has poor circulation and I also read in some cases the absorbtion of magnesium from doing it too much can have a negative effect on blood glucose levels and cause some otherwise unexplaied fluxuations.

 

     Overall it's good stuff if used wisely

Drew Hunter
TEAM RED Team Captain ..............__o
http://diabetes.org/tourteamred .......\,
Join us for the ride of your life! ....( )/ ( )
.
Frequent Responder
mikeyboni
Total Posts: 58
Registered on: ‎12-03-2011

Re: Epsom Salt

im not using it for the purpose of lowering blood sugar but for the pain that i have right now which is gout/swelling, in i never used epsom salt before i just read an article about it. thank you for the info.

Mikeyboni
Type 2 - Diagnosed April 2002

Glimepiride
Pioglitazone
Metformin HCL
Gabapentin

A1C in 2012
March 5.8
June 6.0
October 6.2
December 6.3


Super Advisor
jpg391
Total Posts: 5,598
Registered on: ‎05-22-2011

Re: Epsom Salt

[ Edited ]

Mikey,

 

I have copied this from the WebMD website about washing of the feet. Please pay notice to the note at the bottom about NOT using Epsom Salt.

 

 

Diabetes: Steps for Foot-Washing - Topic Overview

 

Because you have diabetes, you need to wash your feet carefully each day. Post this list of proper foot-washing steps in your bathroom.

 

Wash and dry your feet


  1. Use warm (not hot) water. Check the water temperature with your wrists, not your feet. You can soak your feet for about 10 minutes if you want to.
  2. Wash all areas of your feet, especially the underside of your toes and between them. Use a mild soap.
  3. Pat your feet dry. Don't rub the skin on your feet.
  4. Dry carefully between your toes. If the skin on your feet stays moist, bacteria or a fungus can grow, which can lead to infection.

After washing


  1. Apply lanolin or other moisturizing skin cream to keep the skin on your feet soft and to prevent calluses and cracks. But do not put the cream between your toes.
  2. Clean underneath your toenails carefully. Do not use a sharp object to clean underneath your toenails. If you can't see well, have someone do this for you or have your foot specialist do it regularly.
  3. Trim and file your toenails straight across. Trimming them straight across instead of rounding them will help prevent ingrown toenails. Use a nail clipper, not scissors. Use an emery board to smooth the edges. Do not use a sharp-pointed file or stick to clean around the nail. If you can't see well or if your nails are thick, split, or yellowed, have them trimmed by your doctor or a foot specialist (podiatrist).
  4. Use a pumice stone to prevent calluses only if your doctor has shown you how to use it properly.
  5. Put on clean socks daily.
Note:

Do not use strong antiseptic soaps, chemicals (such as Epsom salt; iodine; or corn, callus, or wart removers), or perfumed skin lotions on your feet.

Do not cut or pick at the skin (cuticles) around your toenails.

 

WebMD Medical Reference from Healthwise

 
Last Updated: September 22, 2010
This information is not intended to replace the advice of a doctor. Healthwise disclaims any liability for the decisions you make based on this information.


James G

I'm just a guy who has had type 2 diabetes for 30+ years.

"It is common sense to take a method and try it. If it fails, admit it frankly and try another. But above all, try something." – Franklin D. Roosevelt

"When you get to the end of your rope, tie a knot and hang on." – Franklin D. Roosevelt

"I always wondered why somebody doesn't do something about that. Then I realized I was somebody." – Lily Tomlin

"Happiness is a state of mind." - Walt Disney

On 9/5/14 had amputation of my right leg, below the knee.

Latest A1C 5.6 on 6/23/14

Lipids test on 8/22/13
Total Cholesterol 132
HDL Cholesterol 45
LDL Cholesterol 68
Triglycerides 94

Medications
2,000mgs X2 a day (2 weeks taking then 1 week not taking, then start over again) Capecirabine for Recital Cancer after surgery (not being taken at this time).
10mg Simvastain for Cholesterol.
500mg Metformin twice a day
10 units Levemir, a long lasting insulin
81mg Asprin once a day
40mg of Quinapril (also known as Accupril) twice a day for HBP (to be taken only if BP is over 120).
20mg of Lexapro once a day for depression
1mg of Doxazosin once a day at bed time for a Prostate problem
30mg of Buspirone twice a day for Anxiety
Frequent Responder
mikeyboni
Total Posts: 58
Registered on: ‎12-03-2011

Re: Epsom Salt

Thanks

Mikeyboni
Type 2 - Diagnosed April 2002

Glimepiride
Pioglitazone
Metformin HCL
Gabapentin

A1C in 2012
March 5.8
June 6.0
October 6.2
December 6.3


lizzylou
Total Posts: 13,929
Topics: 564
High Fives: 1,987
Solutions: 142
Registered on: ‎10-31-2009

Re: Epsom Salt

I also read in some cases the absorption of magnesium from doing it too much can have a negative effect on blood glucose levels and cause some otherwise unexplaied fluxuations.

 

 

The amount of magnesium adsorbed by soaking in Epson Salts is very small and not enough to make a difference.  Many diabetics are also deficient in magnesium too, so a little extra is beneficial.  A deficiency of magnesium can cause higher numbers, but I've never heard of it raising numbers.  A high protein diet can also tend to make the system more acidic, so magnesium can help neutralize too much acid, which would be helpful for gout.

 

Lizzy

Knowledge is Power!





Here's some useful links, click on the titles


Testing 101
 
 All About Carbs

Resources For The Un-insured and Discount Medicine and Equipment

LizzyLou Videos



Lizzy's Blog
for lots more  


Frequent Responder
mikeyboni
Total Posts: 58
Registered on: ‎12-03-2011

Re: Epsom Salt

thanks lizzy

Mikeyboni
Type 2 - Diagnosed April 2002

Glimepiride
Pioglitazone
Metformin HCL
Gabapentin

A1C in 2012
March 5.8
June 6.0
October 6.2
December 6.3


Trusted Contributor
morrisolder
Total Posts: 10,493
Registered on: ‎11-28-2009

Re: Epsom Salt

The warning against Epsom Salt for people with diabetes strikes me as part of the one-size-fits-all CYA advice given to people with diabetes about foot care.

 

If you have neuropathy and low blood circulation, then yes, your feet are in danger. An injury or infection that you are too numb to notice can fester, and because of low circulation, heal slowly and develop into a major problem before you might know it exists.  Cracks on the feet that could let in germs may be the starting point for infections, and soaking in Epsom Salts or other chemical **could*** be problematic.

 

But many of us do not have neuropathy and our blood circulation may be quite normal.  So the warnings that are given to all people with diabetes really should be applied to those to whom it really is relevant. When Web MD or some other online source issues blanket warnings they dos o because they don't know the particular circumstances of each person reading that advice.  So they give you the most conservative the most protective advice. Better that a thousand people who can use Epsom salts not do so, than to have 1 person end up losing a foot because they should not have.

 

It seems to me that we have to look at these kind of things through our own eyes, take our own circumstances into account, and decide for ourselves which restrictions are most important for us to take heed of...

Morris

Diagnosed Type 2, with an A1c of 11.4 in 2003; averaging a 5.0 A1c since then with diet, exercise and Glipizide XL + meds for blood pressure and cholesterol. 
A bit dated, but scroll down on this page if you want to know more ...


Frequent Advisor
Hornet62
Total Posts: 528
Registered on: ‎03-17-2011

Re: Epsom Salt

I had a problem with a toe and was told by my primary care provider, who happens to be the one treating my diabetes, to soak it 3 times a day in water as warm as I could take it without burning my skin and Epsom salt.


"No one can make you feel inferior without your consent." -- Eleanor Roosevelt


Levimir 55 units in the morning and at bedtime
Novolog 50 units with each meal
Metformin 1000 mg twice daily
Neurontin (gabapentin) 300 mg twice daily (neuropathy)
Metoprolol 50 mg twice daily (hypertension)
Hydrochlorothiazide (HCTZ) 25 mg daily (hypertension)
Crestor 20 mg at bedtime (hypercholesterolemia)
Multivitamin daily
Aspirin 81 mg daily
Lovaza 2 gm twice daily
Frequent Responder
mikeyboni
Total Posts: 58
Registered on: ‎12-03-2011

Re: Epsom Salt

what's the problem with the toe? see my problem is gout, painful and swelling, which is right now it's lower part of the big toe

Mikeyboni
Type 2 - Diagnosed April 2002

Glimepiride
Pioglitazone
Metformin HCL
Gabapentin

A1C in 2012
March 5.8
June 6.0
October 6.2
December 6.3