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brausa
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Type 1 Diabetes and CDL

I was recently rejected at a CDL course training school, because of my type 1 diabetes (insulin dependent) According to the recruiters, the DOT physical exam will disqualify me, so they sent me home the first day, I was being honest while filling out the forms of course, I've never lied before about my condition and I was never refused a job or other benefits, I immediately went home and did some research regarding their exam and the physical requirements needed and Yes, indeed, it confirmed what they told me at the school, now I am very confused since the literature found on this site regarding discrimination tells another story.. How should I go around this? How and Where can I get more information?

http://www.diabetes.org/living-with-diabetes/know-your-rights/discrimination/employment-discriminati...
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Spookiesmom
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Type 1 Diabetes and CDL

Yep, you can't hold a CDL. The Feds do the discrimination. I was a school bus driver. Had to give mine up. For some people, in some states, if you never ever go low, can prove that, there is a teensy chance you might get it. You could call your local ADA, they could help you
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tybolt
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Re: Type 1 Diabetes and CDL

you can obtain a medical exemption from FMCSA by having your endo fill out a form. check the federal motor carriers saftey administrations website for the type 1 medical exemption. i belive it became law when clinton was in office. you will also have to see a optomitrist. it is a pain in the @ss though  because you need quarterly checkups documented and sent to them. hope this helps! keep your head up!

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bentredrider
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Re: Type 1 Diabetes and CDL


brausa wrote:
I was recently rejected at a CDL course training school, because of my type 1 diabetes (insulin dependent) According to the recruiters, the DOT physical exam will disqualify me, so they sent me home the first day, I was being honest while filling out the forms of course, I've never lied before about my condition and I was never refused a job or other benefits, I immediately went home and did some research regarding their exam and the physical requirements needed and Yes, indeed, it confirmed what they told me at the school, now I am very confused since the literature found on this site regarding discrimination tells another story.. How should I go around this? How and Where can I get more information?

http://www.diabetes.org/living-with-diabetes/know-your-rights/discrimination/employment-discriminati...

This is another important reason for D's to keep an accurate scientific log.  Document.  Just HAVING THE DOCUMENTATION is prima facia evidence that you are a serious, competent, in control person with a controlled condition.  If you have no records....  then you not only have no evidence written in a timely manner, You don't APPEAR to be in control.  If you didn't write the facts down every day THEN YOU DON"T HAVE THE APPEARANCE of being serious.

 

Start soon keep a log, book.  In general the feds can't bar you from a job because a doctor checked a box on a paper UNLESS you fail to provide evidence (the log book might be part of this)  That delineates, what superb control you have when "you are on duty"

 

You want to ask me how I know?  first hand personal experience.  Without the documentation IT NEVER HAPPENED.

 

the legal branch of the ADA can help you I'm sure.  Without my log book I have no idea how I would understand my condition or treatment, which is a good enough reason on it's own.  But If you have a NTSB file, or a DEA, DOJ, state or federal licensing file.  May I respecfully, you consider and accurate organized notebook on how you do self care and the results you obtain. you really want to l get.  this journal has to be totally factual and timely (all entries made withing 24 hours of event being documented).  I reccomend a new notebook, of good quality not used for an other purpose. When you get it: number all the pages in ink before you write.

 

the only way to mae corection is a SINGLE LINE DRAWN THROUGH THE ERROR, THEN THE CORRETION THE DATE AND YOUR INITIALS.

I could go on and on but you now have at least; 

 

This has helped me on more than one ocassion.  I've trail blazed with this approach more than once.  I think they will feel pressure to "DO 'WHATS RIGHT, in the minds of every observer.  I had a CGM, and that gave my work  advocates and contacts LOTS OF AMMO for them to take a chance on me.  Keep the log, and cotact the ADA advocacy division and best of luck getting what yo want/

 

best

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Re: Type 1 Diabetes and CDL

 

The following federal information regarding CDL's, is just below. This info is in my post, in the sticky on the main T1 page, titled "Reputable Websites". Also please disregard where it says "see msg. #29". The message numbers are out of order, due to a forum platform change, a few years ago.

 

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This one is for those that have a CDL, or are thinking of getting one, and if you use insulin. I believe it also covers for oral glucose lowering meds, but I didn't look at that page.

 

http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/registration-licensing/cdl/cdl.htm

http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/topics/medical/medical.htm

http://nrcme.fmcsa.dot.gov/mehandbook/part_4_work_ep.aspx

 

http://nrcme.fmcsa.dot.gov/mehandbook/endocrine4_system_ep.aspx
Remember
The diabetes qualification standard parameter is use of insulin, not the diagnosis of diabetes mellitus.

 

http://nrcme.fmcsa.dot.gov/mehandbook/diabetes_exempt_ep.aspx

 

For further information, that is provided by the ADA, please see msg. #29, regarding employment.

 

Trisha

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Trisha




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Diabetes86
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Re: Type 1 Diabetes and CDL

YES you can get a CDL, the School was wrong.  you get your waiver then go for your DOT physical the person giving the physicle checks the box   "accompanied by a __________ waiver/exemption"  fill in "insulin" into the blank.

Yes its a pain in the butt.

 

I have a fed waiver for insulin dependence,  Ive had it for 7 years (pain in the ass but doable) and I have a CDL

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edmondsendo
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Re: Type 1 Diabetes and CDL

Federal law prevents people on insulin from having a commerical driver's license.   Some states will allow it but you have to have a waiver and you can't cross state lines.   Despite teh state allowing it, there are occasionally exceptions.   In my state, school bus drivers cannot be on insulin.  

 

I believe the concern is that potential for hypoglycemia and the danger it could cause to people if it were to occur while someone was driving a commercial vehicle (since they tend to be much larger).    School buses it is because of the danger a hypoglycemic episode might pose to children.   Rightly or wrongly, that's the thought process.

 

 

 

 

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marty1955
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Re: Type 1 Diabetes and CDL


EdmondsEndo wrote:

Federal law prevents people on insulin from having a commerical driver's license.   Some states will allow it but you have to have a waiver and you can't cross state lines.   Despite teh state allowing it, there are occasionally exceptions.   In my state, school bus drivers cannot be on insulin.  

 

I believe the concern is that potential for hypoglycemia and the danger it could cause to people if it were to occur while someone was driving a commercial vehicle (since they tend to be much larger).    School buses it is because of the danger a hypoglycemic episode might pose to children.   Rightly or wrongly, that's the thought process.

 

 

 

 


I don't think that is true, take the time to read the links that Trisha left above.  Can you give us a link that says this regarding the information you stated.  If so, I will stand corrected.  Thanks.

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Diabetes86
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Re: Type 1 Diabetes and CDL

Edmond

 

THAT IS NOT TRUE.....

 

  I have a Fed waiver and a CDL class 1 and I can drive accross state lines.

 

Please if your going to give info to people you need to be sure its correct info OR state it as opinion!

 

 

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mollythed
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Re: Type 1 Diabetes and CDL

[ Edited ]

The whole topic is complicated, but there has been some improvement in options amd exemptions in recent years.  There is a lot of information at:

 

http://www.diabetes.org/living-with-diabetes/know-your-rights/discrimination/drivers-licenses/commer...


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